tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post4700849722874229059..comments2023-07-10T00:44:36.377-07:00Comments on Seeing The Lizards: Insert "Genus : Castor" Pun HereLizard Seerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07497330695288945161noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-7545667380681933782018-07-31T09:06:25.887-07:002018-07-31T09:06:25.887-07:00They ripped off Muddy Waters and Randy California,...They ripped off Muddy Waters and Randy California, too. Bastards.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-33255922270482075302018-07-02T02:32:58.359-07:002018-07-02T02:32:58.359-07:00Nice Cookie, nice.Nice Cookie, nice.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-17006046693074035992018-06-26T11:04:52.404-07:002018-06-26T11:04:52.404-07:00People did wonder at the time why the whole "...People did wonder at the time why the whole "United Craft Brewers" thing didn't work out. <br /><br />But then everyone knows "why" now.Lizard Seerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07497330695288945161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-29308550004763859112018-06-26T01:34:20.459-07:002018-06-26T01:34:20.459-07:00I get that a beer drinker may prefer the fuller fl...I get that a beer drinker may prefer the fuller flavour products of independent brewers over the blander ones of international brewers and see the buy out of craft brewers as damaging the independent supply chain. Moving your custom to brewers that support your preferences is enlightened self-interest. It’s more than a product, it’s an eco-system, a supply chain. By that logic you also have to go to the independent off licence, and not Tesco.<br /><br />I don’t get how people equate that with virtue. That somehow the independent sector is more virtuous. Heineken UK follow health & safety, pay their staff above the living wage and churn out popular if bland products millions enjoy. They are not bad guys. You would not describe a factory churning out hand made cars for £200k as more virtuous than an automated car plant churning out £20k cars. You’d simply see that they were fulfilling different segments.<br /><br />If we consider eggs rather than beer. I personally cannot taste the difference between free range & caged. However, I buy free range. The price difference is to my pocket trivial and I am more comfortable with traditional farming techniques over factory farming. There is violence in all farming, but I think there is less suffering in traditional farming and I suspect the products it produces are less likely to make me ill. I have no evidence for the latter. I actually see it as virtuous, choosing the higher animal welfare. You might say veganism is a higher virtue by that logic. But I get the argument of ethics and virtue in a consumer choice.<br /><br />I don’t get it in craft beer. I don’t get where the suffering or exploitation is, in factory beer. It seems to me that those that don’t wish their own money to go to Heineken are making a choice of rational self interest and virtue has nothing to do with it. That’s okay.<br />Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-58526897074709261382018-06-25T14:31:01.789-07:002018-06-25T14:31:01.789-07:00I live in East London and have never knowingly see...I live in East London and have never knowingly seen Beavertown on sale in any of my local pubs or had a pint of it (anywhere). Their can logos make it look like they target children.<br /><br />No-one seems to have said what percentage Heineken will have in the new company, or how much of a 'majority' Mr and Mrs Plant will keep. It would be good business practise to ensure that key staff have shares, but we probably won't know what they have got until the next Companies House filing. So it seems a bit premature to suggest that this is the end of the world.<br /><br />To me, Mr Plant s being very sensible. His growth opportunities in the over crowded UK market are restricted so to make a lot of money he needs to expand overseas, which will cost a lot. Not least, I assume that he lacks the international experience and ways to get into the subtly-tied foreign markets - hence a tie up with Heineken, who do know their way around, makes sense to get the beers to market.<br /><br />It has always been the case that some businesses are formed to enable the owner to (hopefully) enjoy a decent lifestyle whilst doing what he wants, whilst many others are formed to make money. I don't see why anyone should have a go at Mr Plant to wanting to be in the latter category.<br /><br /> Ian Wordennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-6137652949404381342018-06-25T12:32:01.111-07:002018-06-25T12:32:01.111-07:00Love the Willie Dixon reference. I've been to ...Love the Willie Dixon reference. I've been to the blues museum which he opened at the old Chess Records building in Chicago with the cash from his out of court settlement with Led Zeppelin. Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387170913578542671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-35049321059581631502018-06-25T12:00:38.073-07:002018-06-25T12:00:38.073-07:00You right well, that's all I have to say on th...You right well, that's all I have to say on the matter.retiredmartinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15429804437739227082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6059712069593608891.post-5096534598500873032018-06-25T11:45:59.967-07:002018-06-25T11:45:59.967-07:00Shame the United Craft Brewers didn't take off...Shame the United Craft Brewers didn't take off, the expulsions would have been fun to watch. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.com